10 tips to save time and money on your pole barn kit

  1. Establish a budget – Have a budget made before you start calling for quotes. This will give the manufacturer an idea of what type of pole barn kit that will be best suitable within your price range.
  2. Call your building department – Talk with your local building department before doing anything else, this will give you have an idea of any requirements that may hinder your building plan.
  3. Decide on tasks – Decide on which tasks you feel comfortable tackling and which ones you want to hire out.
  4. Call around – Call as many different companies as possible to get the best deal. Identify what you need before hand to ensure they meet your needs.
  5. Identify your location – Choose a site where you want your pole barn kit to be built. Consider the slope, obstructions around the site, and if water runoff will be an issue.
  6. Check the route – consider the route that will be taken by the truck dropping off your pole barn kit. Will the truck be able to maneuver within the confines of the site and be able to enter and exit the area?
  7. Consider the extras – Think about the things that you might want to be added to your pole barn kit down the road. It might be easier to design a pole barn kit to support a 12 door now than remove a smaller door and replace later.
  8. Use money saving materials – Look into money saving materials, telephone poles can be used in place of fresh cut poles. They will withstand the test of time and have great load bearing capability. Always ask the seller if this is a valid option.
  9. Build in sections – Building your kit in sections can prolong the expense making it more affordable up front. Build the loft after you build the main body of the pole barn kit.
  10. Think ahead – If you build the kit yourself, try and plan the poles to be 8’ apart to have the sheet line up making exterior finishing quicker and more efficient. Using pre-made metal trusses can provide slots for purlins that will also make life easier when building.

I will keep you posted with more tips as soon as possible. Doing your research now is a big part in saving yourself time and money down the road. You are already on the right track to making a smart informative decision by looking through this amazing site!

Calling The Pole Barn Kit Company

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When you call for a quote regarding your pole barn kit, there are some things that you need to know. Knowing what you are talking about will help get you the exact pole barn you want and make it much easier to communicate your wants and needs to the company. They can help you determine what type of pole barn kit will fall within your budget while meeting your overall goals. Having an idea of what type of questions that will be asked before you start making your phone calls will help make your purchase smooth and efficient.

I have mentioned this before, but deciding on having the foundation poured before or after the build is important. It is also proactive to decide if you will pour the foundation yourself or have a contractor perform the task for you. The foundation is usually not included with the pole barn kit purchase. Some barns will have a dirt floor because they use it strictly for equipment storage that does not require a floor, and is used mainly for shelter from the elements. If you want to get some of the concrete started, footers can be poured to set the poles more securely and will also provide an outside perimeter that will make the main slab pour a bit easier. The footer can be made to a height that will be a few inches above the future slab so when the time comes to finish the foundation you already have the footer in place saving time on making forms. Many decide to hire out this task and help as much as possible when the crews arrive; it still gives the sense of building the barn yourself.

Look into the building permit requirements and ensure that your chosen company will be able to provide a kit that will meet the building code. Having an idea on what the building requirements are for your area will help the pole barn kit company establish an idea on what type of kit will be beneficial for your needs and provide you with a general quote. Some companies will ask for you location and talk with the building department to make sure they provide you with a kit that meets all requirements. Load bearing requirements will dictate how some kits will be designed and the kind of materials to be used. They make really convenient metal trusses that work well with a basic kit and usually meet the load bearing requirements in areas that accumulate mass amounts of snow. The metal trusses also have metal clips that hold the purlins in place.

Knowing your budget is one of the most important things you need to do before calling anyone. The first step is to establish what your needs are. What type of pole barn kit do you need? Are you going to have this pole barn climate controlled? Are you looking for an extravagant exterior that matches your house with huge barn doors? Do you want a metal roof, and if so, will you have insulation added? Little questions like these can go on forever but the best way to tackle this task is to get it on paper. Write down your ideal size that will accommodate your needs. Then, starting with the most important at the top, list the things that you need your pole barn kit to include.

When you are all said and done with your list, write in big fat bold letters the final price of what you want to spend on that pole barn kit. Have this list sitting in front of you when your are talking with your potential pole barn kit supplier and write down their initials next to each item they can provide you on your list while staying within your budget. After a few phone calls you will have a pretty decent idea on who will provide you with the most bang for your buck. Before you start calling there is one more thing that you can do to help save you some time and money.

This may seem a little mundane, but whip out that paper again and write down all the questions you have to ask this company before you get on the phone and forget some of your most important questions. Here are a few examples:

 

-Do you provide delivery to my site? Is this included in the price?

-How long does delivery take?

-How long have you been doing business selling pole barn kits?

-Do you have contractors that specialize in your kits?

-How detailed are your plans for constructing the kit?

-Do you guarantee any of your products or work?

 

My list would most likely run the length of the page but I want to know for sure what kind of business I will be working with. Getting this far in the phone call will only benefit you if the company you’re talking to is a very likely candidate. Save your time by making sure they offer some of the things your require in a kit before giving them a lightning round of questions. Hopefully this article gives you some thoughts on what to bring up when you are talking about this exciting purchase. Pick up the phone and Good Luck!

Pole Barn Kits and the Building Department

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Calling the building department will be an essential step in purchasing pole barn kits. The company making your kit will need to know specific details on the roof load requirements, the type of building code requirements they use, and many other questions that will help the company customize your order to meet the requirements. Some counties may not require a building permit at all and the only way to know is by contacting your building department. I have listed a few questions you can think about before getting them on the line.

What are the roof load requirements for your area? The load requirements will determine how much weight/snow your roof needs to be able to hold.

How deep is the frost line in your area? This is the point where the ground stops freezing. The line will give a depth to dig past for your pole placement.

How far away does your barn need to be from any other structures?

What are the wind exposure requirements? There are B, C, and D wind exposures. This will be pertinent information for the manufacturer of your trusses to know.

What types of plans are needed to obtain a building permit?

These are a few questions that will get you started with the building department. Once you are discussing the requirements that need to be met for building pole barn kits, your building department should provide you with any additional requirements to obtain your permit.

When you contact the company that will be providing your pole barn kit, ask them what they need to start the building process. Many companies will need specific information like the questions I listed above to ensure the structure meets the applicable building requirements. Some will give you a checklist that will give you something to work off of, while others will just take the reins and make all the phone calls. Contacting the building department about permit prices will provide you a chance to ask them about their specific processes with pole barns.

Use these questions to get you started and please feel free to comment on this article and add any thoughts you may have or any input you think will be useful for future readers.

If you would like to take it a step further, take a look at the following articles from Hansen Pole Barn Kits. Mike does a great job breaking down each piece of information required in a checklist format.

Part I of the building department checklist

and

Part II of the building department checklist

 

How Much Do Pole Barn Kits Cost?

Money

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Pole barn kits can get complicated when you start talking about the finished cost. Things to consider in the budget of a pole barn kit project should include things like the foundation. The foundation is a cost that is usually made outside of the pole barn kit purchase. Permits can also run a small fee that is often overlooked. All states vary on what type of requirements and fees are associated when trying to get a permit. If you call your local building department, they will provide you with application fees and requirements. The cost of lumber also plays a huge role in the overall price of a pole barn kit but you can get an exact quote from the manufacturer that will be valid for a set period of time. In addition, there are many variations to different pole barns based on a particular persons needs. Some people prefer windows, while other don’t. Small additions and preferences will all factor into your final price. These are just a few things that can sneak up on you when you start to budget for your pole barn. I can show you a few examples of prices to give you an idea of what you will be looking at depending on the structure size you want.

 

Building the foundation for your pole barn kit is not always necessary. The pole barn can be built without a foundation already in place. The option to pour a concrete foundation after the structure is already in place is an added bonus to choosing to build this type of barn. It’s always a good idea to talk with the manufacturer about holding off on a foundation before you start building. Some design plans may require the foundation, although most do not. When planning the cost of the foundation, you can measure out the square footage needed and get in contact with a contractor that can provide service to see what they usually charge. Home Wyse provides a useful resource that gives an estimate on what it will cost to pour a slab for your pole barn and breaks it down into cost per square foot.

 

The cost of building permits varies depending on location but most use the same general pricing guidelines depending on the valuation of the proposed structure. If the structure is estimated to cost at least $1k, your fee will consist of $20.00 and for every additional $1k there will be an added $6.00 not to exceed $50k. For example, the kit you want to build will cost $10k, then you will pay the $20.00 for the first $1k and then an additional $6.00 each $1k ($6.00 x 9=$74.00). The combined cost of the permit will be $94.00 ($20.00+$74.00=$94.00). This gives you an idea of what to expect but please call your building department for an exact price.

 

Complete prices are easier to come by when you are looking into simple pole barn kits. The more customization that goes into a kit, the harder it is to establish a set price without calling for a quote. I have researched pole barn kit prices and have established a general guideline for average pole barn kit prices.

 

SIZE (W-L-H)

PRICE

24’ x 24’ x 8’  –  24’ x 40’ x 10’ $3,200  –  $5,900
30’ x 36’ x 8’  –  30’ x 64’ x 12’ $4,800  –  $10,000
36’ x 36 x 10’  –  36’ x 64’ x 12’ $7,000  –  $12,100
40’ x 40’ x 12’  –  40’ x 84’ x 16’ $8,100  –  $16,200
60’ x 96’ x 16’  –  60’ x 120’ x 16’ $25,800  –  $31,500

 

These prices will give you an idea of what the cost will run depending on the size of the pole barn kit. Pole barn kits are a fraction of the cost of what a conventional wood framed structure would cost. The pole barn kit company links I have provided on Americanpolebarnkits.com will point you in the right direction for direct quotes and a more detailed list of prices.

Pole Barn Kit Poles

Digging Holes

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The most important part of your upcoming build is the pole barn kit poles or posts. Your poles will be the main focus of the structure providing it structural integrity and load bearing capacity. The depth of the poles varies depending on your location as well as the type of ground you will be dealing with. After you sink your poles, the possibility of rot is always there. The good news is, there are new products and methods that mitigate this. When you are ready to set your poles, you run into a list of choices on how to sink them.  This article will help you narrow down how to tackle the task of setting your poles. When this is complete you will be so pumped the rest of the barn will go up in no time.

The depth of the poles will depend on the frost level of your building site. This is the level that the ground will stop being frozen in the dead of winter. If you do not bury the poles deeper than the frost level, frost heaving can occur and dislodge the position of the pole. It’s safer to put the poles in an extra 6” or so than to be cheap and run the chance of having an unstable pole barn.

Digging your holes for pole placement can be achieved in a variety of ways. You and a friend can hand dig all the holes, which is not the preferred method. Renting an auger is another method that usually requires two people for safe operation although single operator augers are available.  I would highly recommend using an auger and if you don’t agree, dig the first hole and then tell me what you think. If you have the ability to get your hands on a small tractor or bobcat, they make an auger attachment that can be mounted to the piece of equipment, hands down, the easiest method.

Once the holes are dug there are a few methods that can be used to secure the pole barn kit poles in the ground. Any of the following methods are acceptable but some are better in preventing rot and keeping the poles in better condition for longer periods of time. They are listed in order, number one being the most recommended.

  1. Easy E – Using a preformed footing and securing the pole to the footing. This footing can be purchased and will make the process of setting the poles much easier while protecting the pole from rot. It will look like the Full Pour but you will not have to wait for the footing to harden before securing the pole.
  2. The full pour – Pouring a footing and then bolting the pole to the footing. This can be accomplished by pouring a footer that runs the length of the barn or by filling the hole with concrete and placing a bracket inside before the concrete hardens. Then you can bolt the bracket to the pole without the pole ever touching the soil.
  3. Plastic Protection – Purchase a plastic footer that will allow you to place the pole inside the form and fill it with concrete and then bury the form that is now attached to your pole.
  4. Lag luster – Place lag screws into the bottom of the pole with a few inches of the screw hanging out and then backfill the pole with concrete. This will provide a strong bond with the concrete and pole.
  5. Pre-Footer – Pour concrete into the hole and allow it to harden, drop pole and fill with a gravel, sand, and concrete mixture.A great example of this method is located at decks.com.

*All names are made up for your amusement but the methods are legit.

The link below is a great video showing the process of making footings for the Full Pour method.

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Things to consider:

-Before digging your holes make sure you will not be digging into any buried water lines or wires that may have been buried long before you arrived at the site. Your local building department should be able to square you away.

-While we are talking about the building department, be sure to ask them about the frost line in your area and any codes that would require you to dig to a certain depth.

-Poles come in all shapes and sizes so if you are on a budget don’t forget to consider the use of old telephone poles. They are extremely durable and have great load bearing features.

 

This is a general article to get the creative juices flowing and things to consider when planning your pole barn kit build. This will also help those who would prefer to have a kit built for them. It’s good to know what goes into the building process to ensure your getting a quality structure.

Introduction to American Pole Barn Kits

Pole barn kits are widely used throughout the United States for their simple design and cheaper building costs. The design provides the structure with the ability to be constructed with minimal framing. The pole barn can simply be a structure consisting of four poles and a roof and everything else you decide to add to the build is up to you. I make it sound a little easier than it is but I just want to give you an example of why they are so popular.

The design of a pole barn has been developed into many styles. There are pole barn kits that tend to residential needs, commercial, and agricultural. Many of the residential and commercial building blend right in with the structures that surround it, the only difference being, price and design. The good news is, pole barn kits have a better design and are almost always cheaper than a conventional building.

Almost everyone can benefit from owning a pole barn. Who has ever said, “I wish I had more room in the garage” or “I wish we had a garage”? Everyone could use more space. Pole barns are the cheaper solution to having a wood framed building added to your property. They would look the same in the end but the pole barn will be significantly cheaper. Whether you are looking to purchase a pole barn kit to build yourself or hire a contractor to build, this website will help you along your journey to making every last detail count to ensure the feeling of satisfaction when you open the doors for the first time to your new barn.

Why Buy A Pole Barn Kit?

Why buy a pole barn kit?

Pole barn kits have becoming popular over the last few years and for good reason. They provide a very simple construction plan that ensures structural integrity to withstand the test of time and environmental hazards. Constructing a pole barn kit enables you to customize the size, color, doors, windows, and additional rooms. Many owners decide to add living quarters within the barn, wether it be a loft that overlooks the storage area underneath, or a completely separate living area closed off from the rest of the barn. When you start the planning process of your pole barn kit, you will see the endless possibilities available.

Pole barns are constructed around poles that are placed around the building. This method gives the structure the ability to have no floor or walls to ensure stability. Many times you see pole barns with a roof with no floors or walls, they are used to shelter equipment like an RV, boat, or agricultural machinery. This is a perfect example of how strong a pole barn can be with only a roof. When the walls and interior additions are made, you have that much more of a stable structure. Customization of the kits gives the structure the ability to withstand environmental hazards like heavy snow, wind, or rain. Steep angles on roofs sometimes called roof pitch, allow snow to fall instead of piling up causing stress to roofing and trusses below. Following the codes that are required in your specific area can mitigate wind damage. For example, Hurricane prone areas will need to have straps that secure a truss to its attaching member.

Pole barn kits come in all shapes and sizes to meet the needs of the user. This also enables someone to purchase a kit that meets his or her budget. There are a ton of pole barn kit suppliers out there that will help with every step to ensure complete customization. This leaves many decisions for you.

How big should I make my pole barn?

How many windows and doors and what size, color, and location?

What color will my pole barn be?

Will I make a loft up stairs?

The list goes on…

Imagine having some friends over and they notice your amazing pole barn on your property and they say “wow, who built that?” and you (humbly) say “I did”. I bet they look at you like your crazy. Building a pole barn kit yourself is very feasible and does not require a ton of construction experience. They are made into kits for a reason and provide enough directions that a novice DIY’er can complete the task. If there are parts of the construction you don’t feel comfortable doing you can surely hire help. I am not saying that it will be a walk in the park but with some determination and motivation it can be done.

There are tons of reasons why someone would want to build a pole barn kit and I only hit on the main points in this article. If you feel there are more powerful reasons to build a pole barn kit please let me know in the comment section and I will be happy to share it. Thank You.